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Cardinal obrien admission

He admits sexual misconduct .

Hypocritical beynd belief , especially after his strong stance against homosexuality since he became a cardinal in 2003

Calling it an grotesque subversion.
seems his award last year as BIGOT OF THE YEAR was well founded

What does this mean for the catholic church in scotland ?
are there more skeletons in the closet ?
will more bodies be unearthed, metaphorically of course?


Legend-Lives  Mon 04/03/13 17:46
Legend-Lives
Mon 04/03/13
17:53

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Tony seems to have called it right last week when he asked " why resign if youre innocent ?"


There was no papal smoke from the cardinal , but certainly there was smoke and fire where he was concerned on these allegations it seems.
BobDiamond
Mon 04/03/13
18:14
The Catholic church seems to lurch from one crisis to another. How they retain their credability is beyond me.

The fundamentals/principles of most religious theory are to be admired, it is a shame that they are not upheld by some of the people that are mean't to teach and guide us about these principles.
Legend-Lives
Mon 04/03/13
18:16

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Hypocrisy and religion seem to walk hand in hand
BobDiamond
Mon 04/03/13
18:30
I am confident that there will be some people who live devout lives and they probably out number the ones who do not but yes, the double standards are staggering.
tonyted
Mon 04/03/13
19:44
I wonder how many Catholics are looking sideways at their local priest.
Legend-Lives
Mon 04/03/13
19:47

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The parishoners who said on telly last week that it couldnt be true

Imagine how theyre feeling nowconfused
Glyphix
Mon 04/03/13
21:52
From the age of 13-16 I went to an all boys Catholic Grammar school and four priests that ran/taught were genuine 'men of the cloth' and nothing will change my mind on their faith.

obrien is a pedophile (allegedly) though and his own undoing but it shouldn't cloud every institution, although it does.

The fact that he's admitted about it, after the pope has decided to step down does make one laugh.

Plenty more skeletons in the closet, I'm sure.
Legend-Lives
Mon 04/03/13
23:52

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And a homosexual. Even though he so stronglly condemned and reviled them.
craft1948
Mon 04/03/13
23:57
I think a lot of hypocrisy with regards to sexuality stems from the very top in the Vatican itself. And I believe that is why the Pope resigned, because he was prevented from doing anything about it.
Legend-Lives
Tue 05/03/13
00:00

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The pope headed the department that covered up abuse for 20 years

He is no loss
Legend-Lives
Tue 05/03/13
00:07

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Sex Crimes and the Vatican

Main article: Sex Crimes and the VaticanOn 1 October 2006 Panorama did an episode on Crimen Sollicitationis, a church "instruction" approved by Pope John XXIII during 1962, which establishes a procedure for dealing with child sex abuse scandals within the Catholic Church. It was enforced for 20 years by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger before he became the Pope. It instructs bishops on how to deal with allegations of child abuse against priests.
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